Coffee Lake 8700k vs Ryzen cpu's

[risho]

With Coffee Lake on the horizon and Ryzen already out, what are your thoughts on either one or a comparison of the 2? Ryzen will offer more cores, but at a lower clockspeed. It looks like people are able to overclock the ryzen 1950X to 4 ghz on all 16 cores if you really want it.

on the other hand coffee lake will support all 6 cores at at 4.3 out of the box, and I wouldn't be surprised to see it reach 4.5 to 4.7+ on all 6 cores for people who want to make it happen.

It will be interesting to see how the ipc compares between the two. what are your guys thoughts?

[ssshadow]

My thoughts are: It doesn't exist yet, wait for benchmarks and prices.

Probably it will be faster in terms of absolute fps but also more expensive and require a $100 cooler because Intel will still use toothpaste between the IHS and the die.